In response to this video of ‘dispersing chemtrails’ (‘cirrocumulus‘ to the rest of us) over at Clare‘s, moonman Ken Ring makes the following statement.
It is NOT drifting. It is the earth rotating under it. Do you really expect it to move with the earth? The fact that it does not proves it is very high cloud.
To which all one can really say is … wow.
Hahahahaha! This blog was always destined to FAIL! No posts or comments in over a year. Maybe the annoying little boy that started this blog actually grew up?! They all do eventually and figure out how immature & futile their pursuit of “professional argumentativeness” actually is. Ce la vie. Yet another in a long line of silly hobby “debunking” sites bites the dust while actual truth moves on as ever… gone AND forgotten!
So sayest the fantastically named ‘NutbarsnzRtheRealNutbars’ in a typically considered, thoughtful comment from the conspiracy theorist side of the fence. (And I’d be impressed if the email address they commented with really was ‘nutbarsnzyousuckbigones@andyouhaveatinypenis.com’.)
Anyway, as NutbarsnzRtheRealNutbars has pointed out, this site has been put on indefinite hiatus. As the site byline states, I’ve been banging my head against various conspiracy theories for a few years now, and you can only point out other people’s mistakes for so long before realising they’re never going to (or will never want to) learn. The chemtrail hoax is pretty well dealt with by other sites (notably Metabunk and Contrail Science) for anyone who’s at all confused about the science behind contrails (and the non-science behind ‘chemtrails’).
Elsewhere…
And smashdracs! I’d’ve put you at the top if you’d just asked!
Oh and on another related sidenote that some here may find amusing… before I stated adding any comments in these forums I did a little back-reading and followed a few links. One that I visited only a few times was this rather silly little debunking blog called nutbarsnz. I laughed raucously at the massive amount of spamming they were receiving from one commenter in particular before the blog pretty much dried up (and blew away) just over a year ago. Cut a long story short…
Oh, come on Karmakazi Angel!? Surely you’re not accusing our favourite commenter – Biblical Prophet – of being a ‘spammer’? He just made, um, ‘interesting’ points. Unlike, say, MysteriousNZ, Clare Swinney or The Contrail, I’m not in the habit of deleting comments or banning people whose views disagree with my own.
Rightio, leaving the chemtrail hoaxers to their paranoid little delusions … now.
…that somewhere in the world, in the next 10 days, it’ll be really really windy somewhere.
Hopefully this will put me in the same category of soothsayer as the much-respected WEATHERONUT (respected by Clare, at any rate), who predicts a 7.0+ earthquake somewhere on the Planet Earth (as opposed to some other planet) in the next 10 days.
Now, there’s been 19 earthquakes of this magnitude or greater so far this year, which at the time of the last 7.0+, averages out at one quake of this magnitude every 15 days or so.
It’s been a month since the last big ‘un (that 7.1 in Turkey), so, from statistical point of view, we’re already 15 days overdue for another one. Of course, earthquakes don’t concern themselves with maintaining statistical averages — there weren’t any quakes of this magnitude in February or May, for example — but, given the frequency with which quakes of that size have been occurring in recent times, is Weatheronut’s prediction really that big a call?
Another interesting post over at Clare’s notes an unusual ‘grid pattern’ to earthquakes taking place near the Canary Islands and in Eastern Turkey recently.
“Surely this is unnatural” states Clare. And, yes, it certainly looks a bit odd. What could it be? Surely such a clean, delineated pattern must be the result of human interference?!
Well, to a degree, it is. The European-Mediterranean Seismological Centre website, from which the images of the grid-like pattern are taken, are rounding the longitude/latitude co-ordinates of every single recorded earthquake to 2 decimal points. As such, any swarm of quakes in the same area will appear to be evenly spaced from each other as the rounding effect pushes each quake onto the grid created from that mechanism.
The ‘gridding’ effect only becomes apparent when there’s a lot of earthquakes very close together, which allows for a zoom level high enough to allow it to become apparent, but, rest assured, every single earthquake on the EMSC gmap will appear on the intersection points of that grid. It’s impossible for them to not appear on those points!
Looking at it right now, you can see exactly the same effect is still taking place in the Canary Islands and Turkey. Here’s the snapshot of (at the time of writing) recent Canary Islands quakes, with the long/lat grid overlaid to illustrate what’s happening. (Edit: yes, I mislabelled the first longitude point – it shoud be 18.03W)…
Here’s another one, Turkey this time…
Now, as explained above, you need a pretty large number of quakes in a very small area for the grid to become obvious (you need to be able zoom in close enough for it to really jump out at you), and the only places where that kind of swarm is occurring at the moment is in the Canary Islands, and in Turkey, which have both already been fingered as ‘unnatural’. How about a series of four quakes in the North Atlantic, far from anywhere, and surely off the NWO’s radar? Are they on the grid…?
Of course they are.
Given the way the EMSC is plotting them, they have to be.
(Note: I’ve only drawn on the relevant long/lat grid lines here, as it was going to get too cluttered otherwise. This is a good example of how you need a decent cluster of quakes for the effect to show up in any obvious way. At this zoom level, the pattern is still there, but not so apparent.)
Seems Clare and the crew over at the Con Trail have discovered cloud-seeding!
How does cloud-seeding marry up with popular chemtrail theory?
So cloud-seeding doesn’t look like ‘chemtrails’, doesn’t contain any of the chemicals that you’d expect to find in ‘chemtrails’, and pre-date the ‘chemtrail’ era by fifty years.
And on that last point, the guys over at Metabunk have even discovered that this specific cloud-seeding operation has been in existence since 1948.
To think, all that work the NWO has been doing on keeping chemtrails a secret, and then someone goes and puts an ad about it in the local paper!
Here’s Kate, singing about another weather modification technique…
According to research unearthed by Clare, there’s apparently been an upswing in ‘Worldwide Deadly & Destructive Earthquakes’ since 1995, ‘around’ the same year HAARP was created. (And the same year rock band Creed started performing. Coincidence? Very unlikely!)
Now, there’s a few problems with this statement…
I’ve indicated the comparison period with a line and arrow in the first graph. As you can see, while there has been a general trend up in the number of 6.0M magnitude earthquakes, it’s nowhere near as significant as the first graph would lead you to believe (you’ll also notice that a very small minority of quakes even make it onto that ‘general historical interest’ list — just going to show how arbitrary it is). And as the USGS itself point out…
… improved global communication and enhancements in detection technology have both contributed to higher earthquake numbers being recorded over time … “Although it may seem that we are having more earthquakes, earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or greater have remained fairly constant throughout this century and, according to our records, have actually seemed to decrease in recent years.” [emphasis added]
Which just makes me think I should have drawn up a graph for 7.0M+ earthquakes. C’est la vie.
Clare’s posted some impressive photos of sky-writing over the USA, and Rose wonders…
What kind of craft do they need to create that
Well, wonder no more, here is the culprit…
It’s a Grumman Ag Cat, a type of which Jerry Stevens has been using to sky-write his religious messages with since 1998.
At least five times a week, sometimes twice a day, Stevens takes to the skies in a yellow crop-duster he says God told him to name “Holy Smoke.” He soars 9,500 feet above Palm Beach County to pen “Love God” out of white smoke. The messages, which span 7 miles, can be seen 40 to 50 miles away, often lingering in the clear blue sky for 15 minutes.
People have offered him money to write advertisements or political messages. But he refuses to do it.
“I strictly fly for God,” he said.
No mention of chemtrails at all. The process is explained…
The messages take about seven minutes to write in long plumes of smoke, produced when he pulls a lever that pours oil into the plane’s exhaust pipe.
You can see more pictures, and find out more about Jerry at his godis4u.net website.
Clare’s posted a report and some pictures from ‘CuzzieBro’ that showing ‘trails’ over Adelaide.
Surprisingly, the report contains enough actual facts to make some sort of analysis as to what was going on. Using flightradar24, CuzzieBro established that the plane in question was Thia [sic] Airways THA461, and it was at a height of 37000ft when his pictures were taken. Not surprisingly, neither CuzzieBro nor Clare bothered to take the extra step of trying to figure out if the atmospheric conditions at that time were conducive to contrails.
So, again, using the guide Clare recommends, let’s find the upper atmospheric readings for a nearby weather station (in this case, Adelaide Airport), for that day. The results…?
At a height of 370000ft (11277m), for Adelaide Aiport on the 31st of October:
I saw colours in it too, which one does not see in natural cloud material.
So sayeth Clare, when trying to argue that some cirrus clouds she saw on the 18th of October were, in fact, human-manufactured ‘aerosol material’.
Now, I’m not sure when refraction and iridescence stopped working in Clare’s universe, but the effect of sunlight passing through clouds and creating various colours is well-understood, often observed, and perfectly natural…
A google image search reveals dozens of pictures of this phenomenon.
It’s also helpfully pointed out that the clouds in question are, in fact, normally-occurring cirrus. Surely a quick squizz at the satellite picture for that day (also provided to Clare) would certainly suggest that this is the case…
Given the length and breadth of the cloud system — stretching from north of Northland, to (at least) the coast off the Wairarapa — you’d think that had this been a human operation, that it would have taken many many planes to have laid down this ‘aerosol material’. Clare saw these clouds in the morning, so, logically, the planes doing the ‘spraying’ must have been operating throughout the early hours of that day (between midnight and 6am) to have achieved that level of coverage.
So, where did these planes come from? Where did they land? Did anyone see or hear them? Can you take-off and land that many planes in NZ airspace at that time of the night and early morning without alerting someone, somewhere that something strange is going on?
Apparently so!
I must be making a mistake. Any suggestions/pointers as to where my analysis has gone wrong is welcome.
Here’s the gist of it. Clare reports she’s caught Korean Air 129 En Route From Seoul To Auckland ‘in the act’ of laying down a ‘chemtrail’.
Anyway, following the Appleman Chart video guide that Clare has so helpfully been referring people to recently, I looked up the nearest upper atmosphere sounding (Whenupai) to get an idea of upper atmosphere conditions at the time. Now, ‘normal’ cruising altitudes for 747-400 can vary greatly, but let’s say for the sake of argument and erring on the side of conservatism, that it was somewhere in the bally-hoo of 25000 to 30000ft as it approached Auckland for landing. I got this…
So, here’s where I’m not sure. At the higher altitude (within normal 747-400 cruising range), it would seem that contrails were almost certain to occur, at the lower one (assuming some altitude drop on approach to Auckland), we’re in the ‘maybe’ range. But if that’s the case, why has Clare deemed her observation as a ‘chemtrail’ certainty when it goes against the advice of the guide she herself has been advising people to use when trying to determine what and what is not a ‘chemtrail’. Am I grossly over-estimating the altitude of a 747-400 that’s twenty minutes from its arrival time?
Can someone with a greater handle on the science in this situation steer me right? Thanks.
(I should point out, I’m not being entirely disingenuous here, I honestly think I must have made a mistake if Clare is so being so adamant about her observation).
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